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Post by wheresyensen714 on Apr 17, 2006 15:47:16 GMT -5
I've had friends that were building contractors in Texas,and like ir or not, they chose to use these people to better their bottom line- it's a vicious cycle that I'm not sure serves anyone's best interests yeah, well, your friends are fucking assholes, LIKE IT OR NOT...fuck the cocksuckers...you mean to tell me they can't go get some locals who'd work? I hope those fucking scumbags that use illegals as labor get their eyes fucked out by some liquored up hat-dancing tequila swillers. I do agree it serves no one's best interests, other than your asshole buddies. But the choice was a conscious one, obviously, so I still say fuck 'em. That's what I think.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2006 18:05:38 GMT -5
i hate those guys that hire them. and they always have the biggest baddest truck too.
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Post by godzmike on Apr 18, 2006 6:13:41 GMT -5
That's entirely correct, they were thinking for themselves, not at the big picture. But to talk the talk is one thing and to walk the walk is another. I'd like to see what people would truly do given the same situation? No I not taking a poll here or defending the persons I knew, just being realistic. Many people can debate and talk a good game until it comes to their wallet. I was never in that situation, thereofore I do not know exactly what I'd do. I'd like to think I'd send the wetbacks packing, but if the wife's up my ass for her new washing machine and I'm busted to the max, who knows what pressures would make one do......
carry on all...............
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2006 6:50:59 GMT -5
what a fucking cop out. they are greedy mother fuckers. i could easily(if i was the builder) build just 2 houses a year. hire the very best locals and make alot of fucking money. thats what i would do. i dont need all the bells and whistles. i have been doing quite well down here on a combined income of $35K. if i could make that on one dam high end house i'd be on easy street. these mother fuckers have to have all their status symbols and like to boss and control people. thats why they do it.
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Post by godzmike on Apr 18, 2006 9:00:59 GMT -5
Obviously muc doesn't run into the greedy bastards "yuppies" on a daily basis. Just cause they have $100K in the bank, doesn't mean they don't wnat the extra $100K- Do you think a Donald Trump really needs the next frickin' million he makes? Hell no, he's already swimming in more green he spend in a lifetime. You play a freindly poker match with the boys on the weekend. Trump just plays with million dollar properties- you can't even begin to equate the two lifestyles
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Post by wheresyensen714 on Apr 18, 2006 13:40:26 GMT -5
I don't give a fuck whether it's your first day in business, or you're 3rd generation 100 yrs. in business, the bottom line is ethics, morals, and doing what's right. And what's right is to NOT HIRE FUCKING ILLEGAL LABOR!!!!!!! Why is that so hard to understand? Jesus Christ!! Quit trying to fucking justify it! Fuck these cockroaches. Go through legal channels and ask for a job IN ENGLISH...we'll start there....
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Post by Bob Ill on Apr 18, 2006 16:48:39 GMT -5
I've had friends that were building contractors in Texas,and like ir or not, they chose to use these people to better their bottom line- it's a vicious cycle that I'm not sure serves anyone's best interests Yeah, darn that stupid free-market capitalism!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2006 16:49:18 GMT -5
total cop out. maybe the result of a guilty conscence (spelling). they have the right to make every dollar they want.and i was wrong. they have the right to be greedy too. just dont hire the illegals. hire me.
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Post by Bob Ill on Apr 18, 2006 16:53:07 GMT -5
That's entirely correct, they were thinking for themselves, not at the big picture. But to talk the talk is one thing and to walk the walk is another. I'd like to see what people would truly do given the same situation? .... I am going to be patriotic from now on and always shop for the highest price when I spend my money.
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Post by wheresyensen714 on Apr 19, 2006 0:13:48 GMT -5
I am going to be patriotic from now on and always shop for the highest price when I spend my money. C'mon, Bob, that's bullshit. You advocate hiring illegal labor that a local would do for the same price? If I'm a contractor, and I'm given the choice of hiring 5 illegals or 5 locals for the same 7 bucks an hour, either way, I'm not gonna hire the illegals. Sorry. Do I blame them for wanting to come here to work? Absolutely not. $7 an hour is a damn sight better than what they're gonna earn back home. But, Jesus Christ, like I said before, make a fucking effort, amigo. Take a citizenship class, get a work visa, pay some fucking taxes like the rest of us, become a citizen. EARN the fucking dream, don't come here and arbitrarily expect it, or, worse, demand it. Fuck you, Pedro.
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Post by godzmike on Apr 19, 2006 6:14:04 GMT -5
Don't worry just about Pedro, how about the Haitians and Puerto Ricans(oh yeah-they're a protectorate that wants all the benefits of being a US state without the control of the US goverenment) that are doing the same in Florida. It doesn't stop there, at my place of employment (Cleveland Clinic) the same can be said for Phillipinos, Muslims,Indians, hell-you name it, but I guess it's OK for them, cause they at least get temporary green cards that last for eons so they don't get deported.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2006 6:19:21 GMT -5
That's entirely correct, they were thinking for themselves, not at the big picture. But to talk the talk is one thing and to walk the walk is another. I'd like to see what people would truly do given the same situation? .... I am going to be patriotic from now on and always shop for the highest price when I spend my money. for you i would recommend buying at the lowest price and burning the difference.
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Post by Bob Ill on Apr 19, 2006 9:11:27 GMT -5
I am going to be patriotic from now on and always shop for the highest price when I spend my money. C'mon, Bob, that's bullshit. You advocate hiring illegal labor that a local would do for the same price? Not necessarily. If the wages are the same, one would logically hire the most productive workers. That's should be your right; it's your business. Why are you so intent on making sure they are oppressed by the state? Does misery love company? Why should anyone have to get permission to work for a living? Don't we all have to live? What is this "dream" you want them to "earn"?
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Post by wheresyensen714 on Apr 19, 2006 11:50:39 GMT -5
Why are you so intent on making sure they are oppressed by the state? Does misery love company? Why should anyone have to get permission to work for a living? Don't we all have to live? I'm not intent on oppressing anyone, Bob. But, if you are here illegally, what rights do you suppose you are entitled to? Don't give me that bullshit about their "human rights", either. I'm not looking to treat anyone inhumanely, for any reason, ever. (The "Bush Exemption" notwithstanding) But, (and heres that phrase again) like it or not, there ARE certain inalienable rights that a true American is entitled to. If you are a Mexican, Panamanian, Guatemalan, Iraqi, Iranian, Pakistani, or whatever, and you are here in America ILLEGALLY, then you don't have those rights. Cut and dried. If you are any of the aforementioned nationalities and/or descents, and you have made the effort to become a citizen, and don't just want a handout, which all these illegals want, then you have earned that right. But, as I keep saying, I don't give a fuck WHO you are, you don't show up here with your hand out, trying to get something for nothing. In this case, that is to be able to be here with no documentation, no social security number, no visa, no green card, and expect to be able to earn American dollars; the same ones we all earn and have to pay taxes on, that they don't, and the unscrupulous vermin that hired them don't. I know in a Bob Hill administration, nobody would pay taxes, but that's not the way it is, nor has been, for quite some time. Sucks? Yep. But, that's the way it is. I'm just sick of all the touchy-feely, namby-pamby, PC bullshit, We Are the World garbage. I am not currently, nor will I ever be, buying into this way of thinking. Should drugs be legal? Yes. Should everyone be entitled to a good education and reliable health care? You betcha. Should we be in Iraq? No. Should people not born here who sneak across the desert under cover of darkness be permitted to work here without paying taxes and no fear of deportation under the great George Bush Jr.'s administration? Fuck no. I am, by nature, a fence-rider, in the sense I can usually see both sides of most arguments, and am consulted to settle disputes often. This is just something I won't ever back down from. Fuck illegal aliens. Fuck the government for catering to everyone else around the planet while neglecting its own people within our own borders. You live in East Texas; go on in to Houston this weekend and ask all those disheveled homeless fucks if the government is tripping all over themselves to help them out. They'll look at you like you're nuts. Meanwhile, huddled together in some corrugated tin and cardboard shacks near the border on the Texas side are some communal illegals cashing food stamps and welfare checks that Uncle Sam is more-than-happy to issue to our poor, misunderstood illegal friends who, at first glance, don't know what rubbers are. My ex-wife is Mexican and from El Paso, and as long as I remember, she has always said fuck the wetbacks. Now, why do you suppose a Mexican, born and raised here, whose parents came here and got citizenship to belong and do it the right way here, would say something like that about her own kind who live just 10 miles or less away? Because even she knows it's wrong, illegal, and taking jobs away from people who pay taxes. Fuck that shit, she always said.
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Post by godzmike on Apr 19, 2006 13:26:21 GMT -5
I love when these people come over and get an education at American Universities paid by their government, or come her to work and ship all thier money back home, which I guess if it's their money they can do what they want with it. But they earn it here on the green card and reap the benefits of a good paying job and do little at all for our economy. Or better yet, you have to love when the Saudia Arabian shiek owns practically all the damn stock market, or the Japanese own basically the whole west coast. How American is America anymore? I think we'd all be shocked if we knew the truth.
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