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Post by littlegeneral99 on Jul 6, 2011 13:57:45 GMT -5
big scandal for the last few months over here in the UK, regarding phone hacking.
seems tabloid newspapers (Rupert Murdoch's news international) are hiring private investigators to hack into celebraties and politicians private mobile and home messages to get the dirt on them. no one really cared.
now it's transpired child murder victims and the families of the 7/7 attack in London have been targetted as well just so they can run stories in their papers.
now big companies are withdrawing their advertising from his newspapers.I think they should send Murdoch back down for good. I suspect some poor editor will take the shit that is being flung at him now and Murdoch will walk from this scot free.
has anything like this happened in the USA?
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Post by littlegeneral99 on Jul 7, 2011 13:07:00 GMT -5
it seems now Rupert Murdoch has decided to stop publishing the "News of the World" Britains biggest selling newspaper after 168 years of publication.new revelations today is that families of deceased servicemen killed in Afghanistan phones may have been hacked also. Also some police were allegedley taking backhanders from the paper too keep it quiet. of course Murdoch is denying knowing nothing about the journalists illegal behaviour.
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Post by Bob Ill on Jul 8, 2011 13:32:26 GMT -5
.....Note to mobile phone users: When you are talking on your phone you are broadcasting a radio signal. I admit that I don't know the factual details of the hacking. Did they trespass on private property to do the hacking? Or cleverly do it from a remote location? I tend to not treat this as a criminal matter. In fact, I don't think any government info should be secret. Maybe private persons shouldn't broadcast sensitive info. Of course, I don't like the state listening to private persons' communications. But governments claim the "right" to. Then when we do it it is supposed to be a crime? Don't think so!
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Post by littlegeneral99 on Jul 9, 2011 12:17:30 GMT -5
Apparently the messages were accessed remotely by accessing messages left on answering service. I think most people don't put their own password on it and journalists were using default password i.e 1,2,3,4 etc to access.
in one case Milly Dowler aged 13 went missing.Journalists accessed her mobile answering machine to hear her friends and family messages.they even deleted messages when the inbox was full.The family and police had thought it was her deleting her messages giving the family false hope.Alas she was dead all along.
former editor has now been arrested for phone hacking and corruption.he was previously the Prime Minister's communication officer and resigned from his post when the story first broke. PM Cameron now coming under increasing pressure.
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Post by Bob Ill on Jul 11, 2011 9:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by sonofabelch on Jul 15, 2011 5:39:07 GMT -5
Sounds like these "hackers" will be hunted down under a rather loose interpretation of "reasonable expectation of privacy" types of laws. It'll work out to be bigger that what's currently being reported, too. But, anyone stupid enough to think they are protected under laws which "guarantee" privacy and send out info they'd rather not have made public is simply fooling themselves into a false sense of security.
Governments with the means to do so will always intrude on a citizen's privacy. This include various methods of data collection from access to your phone conversations to video surveillance.
Personally I think any information that is transmitted across open air is open to collection. It shouldn't be a crime to access it. Just how the fuck is it a crime to monitor open air anyway? Governments do it yet citizens can't? Nice.
Bortz made a good comparison in hypocrisy by comparing it to the crime of "lying to police" when discussion the recent Casey Anthony trial results. How can lying to police be a criminal offense when police lie to citizens regularly as a "legitimate" interview/ interrogation technique? I'd like to hear the justification for why governments can do what they made illegal for the citizenry. National security? Victim's rights? Protecting the children? Gimme a break.
You'll see this story explode further and further in the coming weeks, mostly due to the liberal media's desire to bring Murdoch down. They've found no other legal way to shut Fox News Corp down as of yet and this will bring his head on a platter to them. I imagine they are salivating rather heavily with this story.
I'm no Fox News advocate, nor am I an advocate of any biased "news" agencies, no matter which side they pound the drum for. I prefer the truth when possible. But stamping out Fox News would be a devastating development in regards to 1st Amendment protections. One of the main things that irks me the most when I actually tune in to conventional news stations is there desire to shut the opposing side up. How could supposed proponents of freedom spend so much time and energy trying to shut an opposing voice up?
Shutting down a voice which directly opposes your point of view does more to damage the various freedoms of expression than simply allowing them to be heard.
Anyway, this story will grow by design and it will probably eventually break up the large hold that Murdoch has on the entertainment industry. Libs will dance in the streets in celebration of their victory and the conservatives will roll up their sleeves and plan retaliatory hits upon the more liberal-sided outlets.
Who really wins in the end?
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Post by littlegeneral99 on Jul 15, 2011 16:45:29 GMT -5
I'm all for freedom of expression, however when a news corportaion deliberatly hacks into a dead teenage girl's voice messages and deletes messages so others can be added to her voicemail so they can run a story in their paper,and give false hope to parents, Murdoch needs his balls booted for that.
It's just not on SOB. There are moral limitations imo.
Stories over here saying FBI are now going to investigate Newscorp. i do think they are jumping in the badwagon now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 23:03:36 GMT -5
Murdoch is a modern day William Randolph Hearst, only with the power to harm a far greater number of people..His alliance with right wing plutocrats is well known,,Only by controlling the news media and other brainwashing entities can fascists succeed in convincing the masses that they are and should always be peasants..This derives from medieval Europe when it was believed that god ordained certain aristocrats to rule by divine right.Only with the coming of the French Revolution (yesterday was Bastille day) and the subsequent violent death by decapitation of the king and his aristocrat supporters did the people end this plague once and for all.. My only hope is that Murdock and his followers at Fox news get their just dessert, a violent end, ..in, our violent world..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2011 13:12:24 GMT -5
wow. what the F is up with this Rebekah Brooks' hair ? Clearly she is more concerned with her look than her testimony. All I can think of is her being a wild woman in bed with that crazy hair all over the place.
And let me ask a question. Is anyone buying the bull crap with the phoney heckler and the phoney staged attach against Murdoch? What a farse!
Make them walk out the front door and to a parking lot to get to their cars. Let the people have their say in this matter.
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Post by littlegeneral99 on Jul 21, 2011 12:23:26 GMT -5
wow. what the F is up with this Rebekah Brooks' hair ? Clearly she is more concerned with her look than her testimony. All I can think of is her being a wild woman in bed with that crazy hair all over the place. And let me ask a question. Is anyone buying the bull crap with the phoney heckler and the phoney staged attach against Murdoch? What a farse! Make them walk out the front door and to a parking lot to get to their cars. Let the people have their say in this matter. the guy that put the custard pie in his face is supposed to be a comedian. it backfired big time as most of the shaving foam went on his face. all three are lying through their teeth and it will come back and bite them over the next few months.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2011 17:45:33 GMT -5
i doubt that because they have money. nothing will bite then. they will live comfortably for ever and ever and ever.
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Post by littlegeneral99 on Aug 5, 2011 15:56:08 GMT -5
Comedian got jailed for 6 weeks for putting shaving foam in Murdoch's face.
Ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 16:20:27 GMT -5
Comedian got jailed for 6 weeks for putting shaving foam in Murdoch's face. Ridiculous thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard of. im just about fed up with this entire life. if u got money you can do whatever you want to. bottom line
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Post by littlegeneral99 on Aug 17, 2012 15:34:46 GMT -5
wow. what the F is up with this Rebekah Brooks' hair ? Clearly she is more concerned with her look than her testimony. All I can think of is her being a wild woman in bed with that crazy hair all over the place. And let me ask a question. Is anyone buying the bull crap with the phoney heckler and the phoney staged attach against Murdoch? What a farse! Make them walk out the front door and to a parking lot to get to their cars. Let the people have their say in this matter. Brookes and Coulson were up in court being charged. trial will be sometime in the new year.
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